tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7817710432110712270.post2842985231734513423..comments2024-03-28T15:32:19.036-04:00Comments on Dungeon Fantastic: Revised GURPS Magic: Merging Stone to Flesh/Flesh to StonePeter Dhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/14246000382321978462noreply@blogger.comBlogger7125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7817710432110712270.post-32930610270954100212013-08-30T10:59:48.839-04:002013-08-30T10:59:48.839-04:00A few thoughts...
1) For the 1-college only mager...A few thoughts...<br /><br />1) For the 1-college only magery issue, I let meta spells count as part of EVERY college, but not as breadth requirements for ANY college. E.g. A fire mage can learn Delay, but a normal mage cannot use Delay (or any other Meta spell) as a prerequisite of the form X spells from each of Y colleges. I think this is fair and it makes 1-college more playable and interesting.<br /><br />2) If Magic were to be re-written I would like to see Ward, Counterspell, and Remove Curse affect Instant/Blocking, Regular/Area, and Permanent spels respectively. They could all use the same mechanic just apply to different classes of spells.Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08285566251159438706noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7817710432110712270.post-65128418710191568842013-08-02T20:00:43.438-04:002013-08-02T20:00:43.438-04:00Clerics had only Stone-to-Flesh. Are you taking th...Clerics had only Stone-to-Flesh. Are you taking that away, or upgrading them with a potent direct attack spell? William Knowleshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07075848234082280333noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7817710432110712270.post-66909764918798282392013-08-02T16:17:42.627-04:002013-08-02T16:17:42.627-04:00Heh. It's pretty funny. The reason I wouldn...Heh. It's pretty funny. The reason I wouldn't want to deal with that is because I have dealt with that in the past. It gets messy in face-to-face games. The whole "If Stone to Flesh can turn a rock to flesh, can you eat that flesh? How many HP does it have?" etc. thing was annoying to deal with.Peter Dhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14246000382321978462noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7817710432110712270.post-24816433524211245662013-08-02T16:16:20.357-04:002013-08-02T16:16:20.357-04:00That would take an expansion of what Counterspell ...That would take an expansion of what Counterspell covers, though - from ongoing spells, to counter spells that have an indefinite effect after the spell ends. Which would basically make Remove Curse useless.<br /><br />Now, to be fair, some of the reversible spells could be covered by those, but then you end up pretty much ensuring that:<br /><br />- all mages must take Counterspell, because it's the only way to reverse spells from their own colleges.<br />and<br />- make One-College Magery even more crippled (can't counter certain spells, because you didn't take Meta as your college).<br /><br />The weird confluence of reversible spells, Counterspell, Dispel Magic, Remove Curse, and the various anti-enchantment spells can really be cleaned up and simplified, though. They overlap in some areas, not in others.Peter Dhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14246000382321978462noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7817710432110712270.post-88723958627839114032013-08-02T15:02:39.212-04:002013-08-02T15:02:39.212-04:00I find myself impressed and utterly nauseated at t...I find myself impressed and utterly nauseated at the same time. Well played.Douglas Colehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04292678529266123501noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7817710432110712270.post-48981364276629923412013-08-02T13:57:24.335-04:002013-08-02T13:57:24.335-04:00One of the things I love about Nethack is that spe...One of the things I love about Nethack is that spells like Stone to Flesh do everything you'd logically think they would do. Except maybe work on walls. Haven't tried that one. It even works on magic items made of stone, and statues that were never alive in the first place.<br /><br />One of the classic strategies for playing a healer is actually to zap Stone to Flesh at a big pile of rocks to turn it into a big pile of meatballs, which you can eat yourself or use to tame animals. The spell even turns stone golems into flesh golems. It's great.Big McStrongmusclehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07067031012393190130noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7817710432110712270.post-87169167343539479612013-08-02T11:42:03.832-04:002013-08-02T11:42:03.832-04:00I know there's a specific preclusion on this o...I know there's a specific preclusion on this one, but it really seems like Counterspell is the ticket here. It's effectively what you've done, anyway. You cast Counterspell at the lower of the spell you're trying to reverse or your Counterspell skill. You could also charge the energy cost of the higher of the two or something. But ultimately, "you have to know the original spell and a trick to reverse it" just makes sense.Douglas Colehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04292678529266123501noreply@blogger.com