tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7817710432110712270.post7911424889458745308..comments2024-03-28T15:32:19.036-04:00Comments on Dungeon Fantastic: Slicing the Gordian Knot of Orc KidsPeter Dhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/14246000382321978462noreply@blogger.comBlogger14125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7817710432110712270.post-47026893303491207792014-12-01T23:18:09.358-05:002014-12-01T23:18:09.358-05:00I like to do a mixed approach: orcs are not-quite-...I like to do a mixed approach: orcs are not-quite-sentient magical constructs wrought by evil wizards at the behest of the evil artificer god, while goblinoids (including imps, gargoyles, and ogres) are twisted, but ultimately free-willed, beings who are only just to slay under the same conditions as humans or elves or the like (simply more likely to be evil).<br /><br />I figure it takes some of the enjoyment out of playing a violent adventurer if there aren't some fleshy things of roughly-human power to slay with impunity but it's also uninteresting to play a moral hero who never needs to make an ethical choice.Ronintendohttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13335678853838217038noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7817710432110712270.post-57177413264117438432012-10-19T20:46:03.209-04:002012-10-19T20:46:03.209-04:00Paladin better keep an eye on his precious human-c...Paladin better keep an eye on his precious human-child orphanage I guess. Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7817710432110712270.post-54561843706916813302012-10-17T13:09:47.933-04:002012-10-17T13:09:47.933-04:00rq goblins related to elves
gurps fantasy races 3...rq goblins related to elves<br /><br />gurps fantasy races 3rd ed goblins are very cool - magic loving creepy more like evil gremlins from films - another book on goblins for gurps have them using lemarkian evolution - each new generation adapt to local environment creating infinite variety<br /><br />i had a game with a player who built an orphanage for monster children - the party paladin found out and killed them all when he was at the shopsKonsumterrahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/18170560484656800416noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7817710432110712270.post-5524028017812776692012-09-03T22:13:16.156-04:002012-09-03T22:13:16.156-04:00thanks for sharing.thanks for sharing<a href="http://www.daai007.org/" title="徵信社" rel="nofollow">.</a><br />cityhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05583017738947703614noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7817710432110712270.post-72053714600595512642012-08-31T12:36:55.809-04:002012-08-31T12:36:55.809-04:00Nice! And thanks for the back-link.Nice! And thanks for the back-link.Peter Dhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14246000382321978462noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7817710432110712270.post-60371721733026083142012-08-31T08:41:37.220-04:002012-08-31T08:41:37.220-04:00http://9and30kingdoms.blogspot.com/2012/08/gobsplo...<a href="http://9and30kingdoms.blogspot.com/2012/08/gobsplosion.html" rel="nofollow">http://9and30kingdoms.blogspot.com/2012/08/gobsplosion.html</a>Necropraxishttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12716340801054739658noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7817710432110712270.post-30242603108355625082012-08-30T21:19:24.487-04:002012-08-30T21:19:24.487-04:00I'd like to hear that argument. Is inability t...I'd like to hear that argument. Is inability to choose between good and evil a bar to sentience?Peter Dhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14246000382321978462noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7817710432110712270.post-16012074639122194692012-08-30T21:12:01.845-04:002012-08-30T21:12:01.845-04:00My players have decided they want to bribe the ann...My players have decided they want to bribe the annoying hogoblins that snipe at them from the dungeon to leave them alone, but to shoot other interlopers. Pretty much the same idea. "But they are inherently evil!" wouldn't change that. Business is business.Peter Dhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14246000382321978462noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7817710432110712270.post-73292202319662925262012-08-30T21:10:48.514-04:002012-08-30T21:10:48.514-04:00Isn't this still just a thin veil to justify m...Isn't this still just a thin veil to justify mindlessly slaughtering sentient beings without having to think about morals and being able to consider yourself "good"?<br /><br />Yes. No different than why it's okay to kill demons (also sentient), devils (sentient), evil humans (sentient), etc. The fact that they could not make any other choice than be evil doesn't make them less evil. And hell yes, it's a game, and if you want it both ways (Orc women and kids, but killing them isn't a moral crime) I'm suggesting a way to do it.Peter Dhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14246000382321978462noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7817710432110712270.post-36748546773718830672012-08-30T20:23:08.089-04:002012-08-30T20:23:08.089-04:00As a player, I prefer to use them as retainers whe...As a player, I prefer to use them as retainers when possible. If they can work for the dark lord over the hill, they can work for me too.Necropraxishttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12716340801054739658noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7817710432110712270.post-7365644125609772772012-08-30T20:21:32.115-04:002012-08-30T20:21:32.115-04:00Most of the adventurers I've seen played (and ...Most of the adventurers I've seen played (and played myself) are not really "good" most of the time (though they're rarely too despicable). Anyways, the game needs foes. You can always use undead, robots, whatever, if you want to get away from killing sentient things (which should also include animals, if you want to be literal about it). Are all your adventurers vegan too?<br /><br />Us/them (good/evil) is as old as human civilization. I'm pretty sure you can't blame that one on Gygax.Necropraxishttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12716340801054739658noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7817710432110712270.post-22579976316181571742012-08-30T18:35:49.569-04:002012-08-30T18:35:49.569-04:00@mdingler
Thats the only reason for Orcs to exists...@mdingler<br />Thats the only reason for Orcs to exists, as far as I can see...Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7817710432110712270.post-80194897523069786822012-08-30T05:27:27.503-04:002012-08-30T05:27:27.503-04:00I think that one could reasonably argue that an in...I think that one could reasonably argue that an innately evil (or innately good) being is not in fact sentient. But the mindset of such a creature wouldn't be much like a classical orc, or indeed a human.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7817710432110712270.post-36184005784402218042012-08-30T05:18:24.898-04:002012-08-30T05:18:24.898-04:00Isn't this still just a thin veil to justify m...Isn't this still just a thin veil to justify mindlessly slaughtering sentient beings without having to think about morals and being able to consider yourself "good"?<br /><br />And in a more palatable way to some players than the other solution, being that your "paladin" isn't an embodiment of an absolute moralistic universe but just a religious fanatic.<br /><br />Honestly, I think the whole "good"/"evil" split is one of the worst crimes that Gygax fostered on the RPG community, especially considering how it's mixed with the Moorcockian law/chaos axis which was purposely introduced to avoid such blatant human-centric monochromatic moralism.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.com