tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7817710432110712270.post3027130918596834146..comments2024-03-27T22:37:01.796-04:00Comments on Dungeon Fantastic: Vryce's 30 HPPeter Dhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/14246000382321978462noreply@blogger.comBlogger12125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7817710432110712270.post-66996278905227670262014-11-18T20:26:21.003-05:002014-11-18T20:26:21.003-05:00It can be a little hard to let go, but once you do...It can be a little hard to let go, but once you do, it is a lot of fun.Peter Dhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14246000382321978462noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7817710432110712270.post-18547374290682112592014-11-18T16:24:50.588-05:002014-11-18T16:24:50.588-05:00That's the way I'm leaning nowadays, to be...That's the way I'm leaning nowadays, to be honest. It's become more fun for me to throw crap at the players and see how they can survive it than it is to spend time worrying about balance.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7817710432110712270.post-23006676360730792632014-11-17T22:30:09.132-05:002014-11-17T22:30:09.132-05:00What's really scary is that while ST 20, HP 30...What's really scary is that while ST 20, HP 30 tops out a human knight, a human Barbarian can go as high as ST 25, HP 50, with the Mountain of Meat perk. Non-humans can exceed even that. HP 50 is well into "medium sized dragon" territory in my games.Peter Dhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14246000382321978462noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7817710432110712270.post-6908476407392378002014-11-17T22:04:07.317-05:002014-11-17T22:04:07.317-05:00Bruno's iconic minotaur barbarian berserker ha...Bruno's iconic minotaur barbarian berserker had 30 hit points for much of his career, and usually ran around with Luck on and a Blessing spell to avoid the worst stuff. He was the terror of the battlefield, and was often set on fire, hamstrung, or blinded in one eye in mostly vain attempts to disable him. It really does take an enormous amount of damage to cripple someone with 30 HP and an insane amount of armor.<br /><br />I think the only time he was defeated in a straight up fight when he was blinded in both eyes, such that he couldn't see his opponent, dropped out of berserk, failed his next HT check, and fell unconscious. Bruno was pretty pleased about the outcome, being at something like -143 HP and "one decent hit away from the HT check where you're not allowed to roll the dice."<br /><br />HP 30 is scary stuff. But it does make an interesting contrast between the squishy wizard and the nigh-unstoppable barbarian or knight.Mark Langsdorfhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00301984145275679568noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7817710432110712270.post-85194827786587011562014-11-17T21:42:15.904-05:002014-11-17T21:42:15.904-05:00It's true - if healing didn't triple, it w...It's true - if healing didn't triple, it would cost so much to heal him his HP would be a severe drag on the party resources.Peter Dhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14246000382321978462noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7817710432110712270.post-72888083176956545442014-11-17T21:41:29.183-05:002014-11-17T21:41:29.183-05:00I agree. For DF, it totally fits the genre - guys ...I agree. For DF, it totally fits the genre - guys who shrug off dragon breath from sheer heroicness are what fantasy is at least partly about.Peter Dhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14246000382321978462noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7817710432110712270.post-86181861932835526952014-11-17T21:28:09.574-05:002014-11-17T21:28:09.574-05:00I like high Hit Points. I think they sort of abst...I like high Hit Points. I think they sort of abstractly represent the heroic powers of the PC. A true hero is very hard to kill thus high Hit Points make sense to me.Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12896361121217230594noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7817710432110712270.post-67655693063013777882014-11-17T19:19:12.030-05:002014-11-17T19:19:12.030-05:00Thats a good point, a Vryce running around with 0 ...Thats a good point, a Vryce running around with 0 HP because his healing is so slow is not quite the same thing.Unachimbahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04873952842828774048noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7817710432110712270.post-74041894788189426512014-11-17T18:37:39.223-05:002014-11-17T18:37:39.223-05:00The extra healing isn't a plus, but q necessit...The extra healing isn't a plus, but q necessity. Without it, it would take three times as long for him to heal up. In GURPS, sometimes conditions will linger until you get back to full HP, which adds to the usual problems of being down HP. <br /><br />This is an even bigger corundum in D&D.Charles Saegerhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00368131505593336249noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7817710432110712270.post-62136716811017559362014-11-17T16:18:15.798-05:002014-11-17T16:18:15.798-05:00"Do you ever feel like it's tough to make..."Do you ever feel like it's tough to make encounters that can threaten him but not leave the rest of the party as grease stains? "<br /><br />I basically don't care if something that can threaten the knight can kill the party mage outright. That's not really my problem. Especially because magic provides so many ways to totally avoid injury, death, or harm. I also don't really mind the opposite - things that can threaten everyone but not even worry the knight a little bit. Then the problem is reversed - how does the high-DR, high-HP knight prevent the others from getting waxed even though he's totally safe.<br /><br />Short version? I put out threats and see what happens to whom.Peter Dhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14246000382321978462noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7817710432110712270.post-23333703066095202952014-11-17T15:49:00.561-05:002014-11-17T15:49:00.561-05:00I struggle with this exact same thing from time to...I struggle with this exact same thing from time to time. Thoughts?GMJasonGURPShttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04831558500989047010noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7817710432110712270.post-65229661679082623442014-11-17T15:34:13.544-05:002014-11-17T15:34:13.544-05:00Do you ever feel like it's tough to make encou...Do you ever feel like it's tough to make encounters that can threaten him but not leave the rest of the party as grease stains? I've been running GURPS for a long time ('92) and that's still the most difficult bit. A baddie who can just barely hurt Mr. DR 17 Knight can outright kill a HP 9 Mage if he connects.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.com