What's in it?
- basic guidelines for megadungeon campaigns, and for mapping megadungeons
- the dungeon stocking rules I came up with for, and use for, Felltower
- the loot stocking rules I use for the same
- spells to watch for in a Megadungeon Campaign
- alternate rules for magic in megadungeons
- loot-based XP
It's only 10 pages. It was actually more like 13-14, but Chris and Matt helped me make it clearer, and then Doug stepped in and made it 10 pages without losing any content. Boo-yeah for editing! They say, "You have to kill your babies." No, you don't. Your editor can just make them smaller and make them fit.
I hope this lives up to expectations.
Already read it, and it is very good and clear. The tables will help a lot in my games.
ReplyDeleteI'm glad! Thanks for the feedback.
DeleteAlways happy to lend a hand. :-) It did come out very well.
ReplyDeleteYou're always generous with your time, Chris. I'm glad you are, as you have a different perspective than my own gamers do and make my books more broadly useful.
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ReplyDeleteIt was fun to read, and fun to edit. I can't wait until I can re-read the final version (my PDFs aren't in the mail yet)
ReplyDelete(And they're in my folder now! Reading! Again!)
DeleteHurrah! And thanks again. It's really worth noting that I was looking at cutting whole sections, and you made it possible to get them all in without losing any of what I'm saying.
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ReplyDeleteNeeds more pages. You should write a sequel.
ReplyDeleteNow I picture you hefting the book like Rodney Dangerfield in "Back to School."
Delete"It feels like a "C." Bulk it up and add a few multicolored graphs."
Ah, Back to School. One of the very, very, very few movies to feature springboard diving as a thing. Since I was a springboard diver as a young person, I appreciated it even more.
DeleteBack to School is Rodney Dangerfield's finest moment, and it's pound for pound one of America's finest cinematic achievements.
DeleteCongratulations. I agree that you should write a sequel. I remain unconvinced on the humour Rodney Dangerfield however.
DeleteCongratulations!
ReplyDeleteCongratulations from a lich is congratulations, indeed! :)
DeleteI wonder where I've seen the first table on page 6. Something tells me I've stocked a dungeon with it before. Or maybe twenty dungeons.
ReplyDeleteNah, couldn't be.
But a sequel would be cool, maybe with an emphasis on dungeon-crawling procedures, details for things like hidden doors, as well as adding weirdness. That Special entry can lead to such weirdness.
It's certainly inspired by what came before, and it's hard to come up with a different number sequence and to end up with a similar results distribution. I'd toyed around with a 2d6 system, actually, but I didn't really like the extra die and calculation to just shift the percentages of each broad "type" around a little bit.
DeleteI have some material for a potential sequel around those lines. And yeah, the Special entry practically begs for a bunch of pre-written entries as much as the trap section has Christopher Rice's excellent work for DF and for the DFRPG.
The person who comes up with a good Special table doesn't only have a good GURPS product, but a good OSR dungeon product. I use the Tome of Adventure Design (or sometimes the Dungeon Alphabet) for it, but it isn't a fast set of rolls, and I have to come up with the game mechanics. Which isn't necessarily bad, but something of a hassle.
DeleteSame story for hidden door details. It's secret; how is it hidden? What is the secret mechanism? That just gets glossed over, and there's only so many tapestries and Scooby Doo bookcases that anyone can take.
I use Kent David Kelly's Castle Oldskull
DeleteIt has a huge amount of tables for almost everything. It helps generate a lot of my dungeons when I'm out of ideas. It's OSR so sometimes I need to come up with GURPS mechanics for it. That is why DF21 Megadungeons' tables will help me a lot.
I enjoyed the treasure rating, just have to see if it works with Chris' It's a Threat treasue system. It is certainly easier to use!
ReplyDeleteIf it does, I've love to see you post it or publish it somewhere. I don't use "It's a Threat," but it's a good system.
DeleteDon't forget to replace your DFT3 in the blog margin :-)
ReplyDeletehttp://www.sjgames.com/gurps/books/dungeonfantasy/dungeonfantasy21/ page is live, even if it's not in the W23 store yet...
I certainly hope you do a follow up book. Mega Dungeons are my favourite theme. It just takes me back to being nine years old playing D&D for the first time back in 82
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